Are you willing to make another back case panel with only wider intakes, without the noctua and sell it? if you do i'm ready to buy it, i'll pay for shipping and whatever youre going to charge to actually make the mod ( considering the fact that youre price is reasonable). I have the same laptop ( sager np 8268-s which is also known as clevo p150 sm-a. my email is bharadwajnani@gmail.com. Give me a reply and we will take it further.
I made a template for the rings in Adobe Illustrator and then cut them out of a sheet of thin black plastic and glued them onto the P150SM back cover. (I can give you the template if you like) By the cover you mean the HDD tray cover? I removed the original rubber foot by grinding it off and filled in the hole with auto body filler than then sanded it smooth and wrapped it in matte black vinyl.
Can you send the template to me? And yes, I was speaking about the HDD tray, did you think about putting a 120mm slim cooler, like a CoolerMaster XtraFlo 120 Slim (who is 15mm only) in place of yours 80mm? I have ordered a 2nd back cover to mod and was wondering about this... Thanks!
I have thought about using a 120mm one, but it would interfere with the GPU fan and the center support of the laptop between the CPU and GPU that the back panel screws into. (I've measured it) If you can find a 10mm thick fan that would be ideal, the 80mm I have is 15mm thick and its almost to thick and requires you to lift the laptop up a fair bit with taller feet.
Here is a link to the template I have made for the fan rings. I hope it suits your needs, This one is 8.5 x 11 inches so it will print out on a standard desktop 2D printer.
In which material did you made the fan rings? It's simply paper? I was searching for 10mm fan, but the ones that I saw, simply doesn't have any CFM worth of the trouble, but did you know the Noctua NF-A9x14 PWM? It's 90mm, but only 14mm of thickness, I'm thinking about buying one to put on my machine, it appears that 90mm is the maximum size that will fit. Which model is your 80mm fan? Wanna know the specs. And lastly, thanks for the template, it will help me much!
I used a thin plastic to make the fan rings which I taped the template to as a guide. I wasn't able to find very many 10mm thick ones either and the ones I have tried were cheap and didn't last. That fan looks promising but it might be worth finding a 5v fan so you can run it off of the GPU fan header and have it be controlled with the system fan if you are interested in that. 90mm might be cutting it close but I think it would work well. Another thing to consider is where the center of the fan will be places as there will no direct airflow there, ideally you want the blades to be directly over the GPU and heatpipes. Either way anything will help though. You may also want to add some extra stick on copper RAM heatsinks to the top of the GPU to aid with heat dissipation after you add an extra fan.
I used this Cooler Master fan, I would put the model # but I cant seem to find it by model # so I've linked its Amazon page.
I don't recommend it as its a sleeve bearing fan and mine began rattling a few weeks after I purchased it. Although I did started running it on 20v and it seemed to reduce the noise and increase airflow by a lot and takes the extra voltage no problem.
I was thinking about this one http://www.amazon.com/Akasa-Ultra-Profile-Intel-Cooler/dp/B00D5T1QTC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1444583360&sr=1-1&keywords=akasa+low+profile+cooler, it's an Akasa AK-CC7129BP01, my plan is to retire the fan (who is a 75x10mm) from the heatsink (it's fixed with screws) and use only the fan on the notebook, in my country, this fan is way cheaper than in Amazon, so the price isn't a point. I forgot the idea of 5V fans, because all the ones that I found, deliver less than 15CFM and have a negligible static pressure too. This one that I linked could be used to cool down an i3 processor, so I think they can do the job. Other thing about this one it that if I make a hole in the back panel, the cooler will be only a bit out of the notebook and I can put a wire grill to protect him, what do you think?
I don't know if you would be able to find an easy and strong way to mount that fan without the heatsink other than gluing it to the heat pipes. You may want to consider just placing the whole heatsink onto the heatpipes with a little thermal paste and holding it down with zip ties or something wrapped around the entire GPU. If its not to thick that may be a great idea and will probably do a lot more for temps than just the fan alone. Also you most likely want some sort of switch or fan controller to turn the fan off when you want to use it on your lap or on a bed etc.
I would love to see/hear more about your progress with this. If you would ever like to send photos or anything you can send them to me via Email or Twitter on this link: http://null-bin.blogspot.com/p/about.html
The matte black vinyl looks pretty awesome, especially the fact that the rubber on our p150 usually becomes sticky (to dust), can you please post more pics of how it is covered? Im willing to do this, did it require you to disassemble the base and the lid? did you use a heatgun?
Got the exact same specs :D (willing to upgrade to 980m too), punched holes like this xD ( dropped 4C): http://i.imgur.com/brc23DV.jpg
I love the feel of the black vinyl and it looks much better as well. For the best results I would remove all the panels that you are going to wrap so you can stretch the vinyl around the edges. Unfortunately I had to sell my P150 and do not have any more pictures to post but I am happy to help any other way I can. I did need to use a heat gun for the corners by the hinges, the touch pad buttons, and around the edges but a normal hair dryer will be more than enough for that.
That way of drilling holes into the stock vents looks like a very elegant way of increasing airflow without totally cutting up the laptop, nice idea!
Hi. I asked you a question on Twitter and you replied. I just wanted to ask did you do any further mods to the P150SM-A, (since its technically EOL), and i'm interested on cooling mods (I live in a tropical country near the equator, so its really friggin' warm, stuffy and humid. Would appreciate pointers from you.
The latest Clevos seem to use some kind of heat trapping ceramic coating on top of their copper bars, and they've effectively increased the number of copper bars PER die/sink from 2 (in the P150SM-A) to 3-4. Do you have any ideas where to get OEM ones that have such amount? I suspect that just by increasing the number of copper bars on the fins leads to better cooling, although not sure about the black coloured ceramic coating (i have no idea what the spesific coating is)
Hi, sorry for taking forever to reply. Increasing the number of heatpipes wont really improve temperatures very much because there isn't actually any extra surface area coming in to contact with the fan's moving air. It will only really cause it take longer to heat up. Clevo never made a P150 heatsink with more than 2 heatpipes for the GPU core. You could always get one of those older, larger, one-piece heatsinks and mod the 2 together for a bit extra thermal capacity on the GPU core like I did. The ceramic insulation coating helps prevent heat being dumped into the case before it gets to the heatsink fins. I am not sure exactly what is used either but I imagine you would have to buy it in large quantities and it may be expensive.
How'd you mount the mesh over the fan covers? I'm looking to modify my P157SM by opening up under the CPU and GPU (I already spread out the intakes by %50) and I want to use mesh to give it a nice finished look, but I'm not sure how I should go about attaching it.
I mounted the mesh originally with aluminum tape but later moved on to using hot glue. The aluminum tape worked well enough but if you decide to use hot glue, try not to make it to thick because the panel wont fit anymore.
Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. :) I was running a P150SM (not -A) with a 4800MQ and a 780M, which I've upgraded to a 4930MX and a 980M (I got good deals on these as they're EOL).
I'm following some of your mods to get the best out of the laptop plus some of my own.
I'll be putting in a Scythe SlipStream Slim 120mm and 12mm thickness (I know, I'll lose the middle screw support and some rigidity, but I get cold air on the CPU and GPU), cutting the wires on a 330W PSU and running 2 parallel DC outputs, one bucked to 12V for the fan and the other for the laptop itself.
I'll also be cutting the CPU/GPU fan circles as you did and putting in a speaker mesh.
I'll try take pictures of these mods and post them somewhere.
Awesome, sorry for the late reply. I would love to see photos or a log of the mods! You can post the link here if you like or tweet/email me, my contact information is on my "readme.txt" page.
Are you willing to make another back case panel with only wider intakes, without the noctua and sell it? if you do i'm ready to buy it, i'll pay for shipping and whatever youre going to charge to actually make the mod ( considering the fact that youre price is reasonable). I have the same laptop ( sager np 8268-s which is also known as clevo p150 sm-a. my email is bharadwajnani@gmail.com. Give me a reply and we will take it further.
ReplyDeleteHow do you make the fan rings and that cover, the cover that u put made it very beautiful, it's way prettier than stock cover haha.
ReplyDeleteI made a template for the rings in Adobe Illustrator and then cut them out of a sheet of thin black plastic and glued them onto the P150SM back cover. (I can give you the template if you like) By the cover you mean the HDD tray cover? I removed the original rubber foot by grinding it off and filled in the hole with auto body filler than then sanded it smooth and wrapped it in matte black vinyl.
DeleteCan you send the template to me? And yes, I was speaking about the HDD tray, did you think about putting a 120mm slim cooler, like a CoolerMaster XtraFlo 120 Slim (who is 15mm only) in place of yours 80mm? I have ordered a 2nd back cover to mod and was wondering about this... Thanks!
DeleteI have thought about using a 120mm one, but it would interfere with the GPU fan and the center support of the laptop between the CPU and GPU that the back panel screws into. (I've measured it) If you can find a 10mm thick fan that would be ideal, the 80mm I have is 15mm thick and its almost to thick and requires you to lift the laptop up a fair bit with taller feet.
DeleteHere is a link to the template I have made for the fan rings. I hope it suits your needs, This one is 8.5 x 11 inches so it will print out on a standard desktop 2D printer.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9g7jqy8md9xzzc/%5Bnull%5D%27s%20Clevo%20P150%20Series%20Modified%20Intake%20Rings.zip?dl=1
In which material did you made the fan rings? It's simply paper? I was searching for 10mm fan, but the ones that I saw, simply doesn't have any CFM worth of the trouble, but did you know the Noctua NF-A9x14 PWM? It's 90mm, but only 14mm of thickness, I'm thinking about buying one to put on my machine, it appears that 90mm is the maximum size that will fit. Which model is your 80mm fan? Wanna know the specs. And lastly, thanks for the template, it will help me much!
DeleteI used a thin plastic to make the fan rings which I taped the template to as a guide. I wasn't able to find very many 10mm thick ones either and the ones I have tried were cheap and didn't last. That fan looks promising but it might be worth finding a 5v fan so you can run it off of the GPU fan header and have it be controlled with the system fan if you are interested in that. 90mm might be cutting it close but I think it would work well. Another thing to consider is where the center of the fan will be places as there will no direct airflow there, ideally you want the blades to be directly over the GPU and heatpipes. Either way anything will help though. You may also want to add some extra stick on copper RAM heatsinks to the top of the GPU to aid with heat dissipation after you add an extra fan.
DeleteI used this Cooler Master fan, I would put the model # but I cant seem to find it by model # so I've linked its Amazon page.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005C31GIA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I don't recommend it as its a sleeve bearing fan and mine began rattling a few weeks after I purchased it. Although I did started running it on 20v and it seemed to reduce the noise and increase airflow by a lot and takes the extra voltage no problem.
I was thinking about this one http://www.amazon.com/Akasa-Ultra-Profile-Intel-Cooler/dp/B00D5T1QTC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1444583360&sr=1-1&keywords=akasa+low+profile+cooler, it's an Akasa AK-CC7129BP01, my plan is to retire the fan (who is a 75x10mm) from the heatsink (it's fixed with screws) and use only the fan on the notebook, in my country, this fan is way cheaper than in Amazon, so the price isn't a point. I forgot the idea of 5V fans, because all the ones that I found, deliver less than 15CFM and have a negligible static pressure too. This one that I linked could be used to cool down an i3 processor, so I think they can do the job. Other thing about this one it that if I make a hole in the back panel, the cooler will be only a bit out of the notebook and I can put a wire grill to protect him, what do you think?
DeleteI don't know if you would be able to find an easy and strong way to mount that fan without the heatsink other than gluing it to the heat pipes. You may want to consider just placing the whole heatsink onto the heatpipes with a little thermal paste and holding it down with zip ties or something wrapped around the entire GPU. If its not to thick that may be a great idea and will probably do a lot more for temps than just the fan alone. Also you most likely want some sort of switch or fan controller to turn the fan off when you want to use it on your lap or on a bed etc.
DeleteI would love to see/hear more about your progress with this. If you would ever like to send photos or anything you can send them to me via Email or Twitter on this link: http://null-bin.blogspot.com/p/about.html
ReplyDeleteThe matte black vinyl looks pretty awesome, especially the fact that the rubber on our p150 usually becomes sticky (to dust), can you please post more pics of how it is covered? Im willing to do this, did it require you to disassemble the base and the lid? did you use a heatgun?
Got the exact same specs :D (willing to upgrade to 980m too), punched holes like this xD ( dropped 4C): http://i.imgur.com/brc23DV.jpg
Love your mods!
Thank you!
I love the feel of the black vinyl and it looks much better as well. For the best results I would remove all the panels that you are going to wrap so you can stretch the vinyl around the edges. Unfortunately I had to sell my P150 and do not have any more pictures to post but I am happy to help any other way I can. I did need to use a heat gun for the corners by the hinges, the touch pad buttons, and around the edges but a normal hair dryer will be more than enough for that.
DeleteThat way of drilling holes into the stock vents looks like a very elegant way of increasing airflow without totally cutting up the laptop, nice idea!
Hi. I asked you a question on Twitter and you replied. I just wanted to ask did you do any further mods to the P150SM-A, (since its technically EOL), and i'm interested on cooling mods (I live in a tropical country near the equator, so its really friggin' warm, stuffy and humid. Would appreciate pointers from you.
ReplyDeleteThe latest Clevos seem to use some kind of heat trapping ceramic coating on top of their copper bars, and they've effectively increased the number of copper bars PER die/sink from 2 (in the P150SM-A) to 3-4. Do you have any ideas where to get OEM ones that have such amount? I suspect that just by increasing the number of copper bars on the fins leads to better cooling, although not sure about the black coloured ceramic coating (i have no idea what the spesific coating is)
Would love to hear more from you.
Hi, sorry for taking forever to reply. Increasing the number of heatpipes wont really improve temperatures very much because there isn't actually any extra surface area coming in to contact with the fan's moving air. It will only really cause it take longer to heat up. Clevo never made a P150 heatsink with more than 2 heatpipes for the GPU core. You could always get one of those older, larger, one-piece heatsinks and mod the 2 together for a bit extra thermal capacity on the GPU core like I did. The ceramic insulation coating helps prevent heat being dumped into the case before it gets to the heatsink fins. I am not sure exactly what is used either but I imagine you would have to buy it in large quantities and it may be expensive.
DeleteHow'd you mount the mesh over the fan covers? I'm looking to modify my P157SM by opening up under the CPU and GPU (I already spread out the intakes by %50) and I want to use mesh to give it a nice finished look, but I'm not sure how I should go about attaching it.
ReplyDeleteI mounted the mesh originally with aluminum tape but later moved on to using hot glue. The aluminum tape worked well enough but if you decide to use hot glue, try not to make it to thick because the panel wont fit anymore.
DeleteHi Null,
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. :)
I was running a P150SM (not -A) with a 4800MQ and a 780M, which I've upgraded to a 4930MX and a 980M (I got good deals on these as they're EOL).
I'm following some of your mods to get the best out of the laptop plus some of my own.
I'll be putting in a Scythe SlipStream Slim 120mm and 12mm thickness (I know, I'll lose the middle screw support and some rigidity, but I get cold air on the CPU and GPU), cutting the wires on a 330W PSU and running 2 parallel DC outputs, one bucked to 12V for the fan and the other for the laptop itself.
I'll also be cutting the CPU/GPU fan circles as you did and putting in a speaker mesh.
I'll try take pictures of these mods and post them somewhere.
Awesome, sorry for the late reply. I would love to see photos or a log of the mods! You can post the link here if you like or tweet/email me, my contact information is on my "readme.txt" page.
Delete